Bouk Weirda[ edit ] This is admittedly a very interesting name, as the Anonimo Gaddiano could certainly be described as a Weird Book. What do you guys think? Professor Weirda has a Twitter Account , an entry on the Royal Netherlands Institute in Rome website and another, more content-rich entry on the independent. The paper is written in English - so presumably we could send the author a little note, in English, asking them to maybe take a look at the entry and make some suggestions for improving it - and then notify any interested parties on the Italian Wiki that a reference needs to be added and maybe the author could authorize a translation into Italian, as it appears to be the only reference out there to what appears to be a very up and coming hot topic. Given especially that the renowned Walter Isaacson is about to publish a new biography of Leonardo da Vinci 17 October - which, weirdly? Fb2ts talk , 25 September UTC Before accusing things of being a hoax, you should try a [ google search.
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Bouk Weirda[ edit ] This is admittedly a very interesting name, as the Anonimo Gaddiano could certainly be described as a Weird Book. What do you guys think? Professor Weirda has a Twitter Account , an entry on the Royal Netherlands Institute in Rome website and another, more content-rich entry on the independent. The paper is written in English - so presumably we could send the author a little note, in English, asking them to maybe take a look at the entry and make some suggestions for improving it - and then notify any interested parties on the Italian Wiki that a reference needs to be added and maybe the author could authorize a translation into Italian, as it appears to be the only reference out there to what appears to be a very up and coming hot topic.
Given especially that the renowned Walter Isaacson is about to publish a new biography of Leonardo da Vinci 17 October - which, weirdly? Fb2ts talk , 25 September UTC Before accusing things of being a hoax, you should try a [ google search.
This is a perfectly well-known source among specialists, also with an article on Italian WP. Did I not clearly do said Google search? At the time it did not have a citation. I just added it this morning. The last thing I want to do is offend anybody. Also, Anonimo Gaddiano is a reference to the text. Not an author. Fb2ts talk , 25 September UTC "The Anonimo Gaddiano" is how sources describe the author, and by so extension the work, in the same way they might say "in Pliny" etc.
Look at the google uses. I am not finding any statement explicitly stating that Vasari relied heavily on the Anonimo on pages , please just grab that bit - my pdf must be different from your pdf. Do you think we should add that? Do books have a "true identity"? The first publication is called "Il Codice Magliabechiano by Anonimo Fiorentino" check the actual Italian title page too.
You seem to be enjoying the article. I agree, it is a very interesting topic. Are you a Leonardo fan? See Annamaria Ficarra, ed. What references where? References to the Anonimo Gaddiano? There is such a list at Wikipedia? Can you link to it? This person was definitely an Augustinian friar, and should not be confused with other persons when the same term, Anonymous Florentine, on other occasions refers to unidentifiable musicians and painters, etc. What is this wierd documentation box?
Does it serve any purpose? Thanks for the WhatLinksHere tip. Very interesting. Lots on IT WP. If the article has only two images, those should definitely be it. One of the samples is apparently from a volume of letters by Bernardo Vecchietti. Where did they find the letters?
They must be in a volume somewhere, we should at least have the citation in the footnotes. I wonder also if the original manuscript is online somewhere - that would be better than having just those two much later printed books. The more verifiable the provenance, the better. Fb2ts talk , 26 September UTC Astounding Developments[ edit ] Unfortunately, the English language Anonima Gaddiano article is currently sporting egregious inaccuracies that are pending resolution aka a Third Opinion -- most notably two in the very first sentence.
Said author Bouk Wierda acknowledges that they have done this, in footnote  of their paper, but by the end of the same paper, said author goes ahead and accepts their own hypothesis -- as solid fact -- based on two handwriting samples ie, the "scholarship" is a bit goofy. Meanwhile, all other texts, and indeed in the Wierda text itself, Anonimo Gaddiano is universally referred to as a manuscript.
See also the entries for Anonimo Gaddiano in both the Italian and French versions. Furthermore, attempts to locate the use of Anonima Fiorentina as an alternative name for the Anonimo Gaddiano manuscript comes up with only one mention on the internet, at least , and that mention clearly states that Anonima Fiorentino is an "Augustinian".
Not only is Anonimo Gaddiano not a person, it would appear not to be a manuscript commonly referred to as Anonimo Fiorentino either. That took all of 10 seconds to find on google, and now I see I have already mentioned it above here. Manuscripts do not have identities, people do. Publication date Cellini e C. People are anonymous, not pieces of parchment or paper. In the meantime, especially for third or fourth editors who may or may not be arriving on the scene, note that European languages not including English assign a gender to their nouns.
For the word "the", in German, this will be "Das" in the German neuter language while it will become "Der" in masculine and "Die" in feminine. This may or may not have been a source of confusion in the wording of an article being translated from the German by a third party more familiar with translating German into English than with the manuscript in question.
A codex pl. Both the above digitized "originals", from the 19th century, are printed. Not handwritten. Indeed, as the article makes clear. Is there a point here? Also please sign your contributions. Page 1. The Anonimo Gaddiano, writing around typo?
This is of course irrespective of whether a book or a person is being talked about. Johnbod talk , 20 October UTC Inappropriate Redirect[ edit ] Johnbod acknowledged that Anonimo Fiorentino is used to refer to "a 14th-century diarist known as the "Anonimo Fiorentino", as well as other figures" a statement that belongs in an article on Anonimo Fiorentino, not in an article on Anonimo Gaddiano, the Manuscript.
At the very least, the redirect should be to a disambiguation page. I have come across reference to an Augustinian, who may or may not be the 14th century diarist. I do not know if they are one and the same - but Johnbod mentions others, in addition to their diarist and the anonymous author of the Anonimo Gaddiano.
I, for one, would be interested to know more about both the diarist and the Augustinian. Unfortunately, there was no citation perhaps because the caveat itself was in a citation. Meanwhile the present treatment is appropriate. But nb that a disam page with only one redirect here and redlinks may well not survive. What are your sources for the "14th-century diarist known as the "Anonimo Fiorentino", as well as other figures"?
A paragraph, with its own heading, would not be inappropriate. This could definitely be a much more interesting article. I second the motion to give it more time to gestate. Good luck with finding more sources - there may well be stuff in the intros to the printed versions. What do you mean "I second the motion" - you proposed it! Leonardo da Vinci. From page 7: "An anonymous manuscript written in the s, known as "Anonimo Gaddiano" after the family that once owned it, contains colorful details about Leonardo and some other Florentines.
There is an enormous literature on Leonardo, much of it at least mentioning the AG. This is a pop bio, by a writer whose previous subjects include Steve Jobs, Einstein and Benj.
Thesis from a Research Assistant at Groningen University. Fb2ts talk , 21 October UTC If you look around the other scholarly references by art historians, you will see the recent ones all refer to Wierda, and many take her identification seriously. They have given pride of place top billing to a section for Editions - I propose that we move the External Links to the top of the stack of 3 and entitle it Editions, emphasizing the published books and putting the digital editions at their respective library locations and archives and see also as part of the Editions entry.
Like so: Editions Carl Frey Ed. Edited and with a summary of the Florentine art historiography up to G. Vasari by Carl Frey. See also: digitized copy from the Collections at Harvard University. Cornelius of Fabriczy Ed. Coi tipi di M. Cellini and C.
See also digitized copy from the Collections at Princeton University. Fiorentino, Naples And then instead of References, would it be too heretical to change that to Further Reading? It seems somehow that we should be able to add a citation for the actual original in the Florentine Library. Fb2ts talk , 20 October UTC no objections to "Editions", but FR means stuff that has not been consulted, as opposed to "References" that have.
See Wikipedia:Further reading. That would be a coup, if we could confirm that status either way. Surely a DYK article should have at least one image -- and if there is only one image, surely it should be at the top. Perhaps a close up of a handwritten page?
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Kanos Perseus with the Head of Medusa. Lisa lost a daughter in Leonardo worked in Milan from until Manuscript — A manuscript is any document written by hand or typewritten, as opposed to being mechanically printed or reproduced in some automated way. Starting from orby recommendation of Benedetto da Maiano and he was one of the greatest painters of his time. The Library from Piazza dei Gadduano. File:Ilcodicemagliab00freygoog Frey Gaddiano.
In corrispondenza a questa loro origine, e a questo loro scopo non tutti i fogli sono empiti di scrittura. Villani e dal Ghiberti; elenchi di nomi di artefici antichi da Plinio, e di pittori e scultori moderni su cui il compilatore si proponeva di raccogliere notizie; le prime minute per alcune parti del testo stesso delle sue biografie; aneddoti artistici e letterari, e via dicendo. Girolamo e stampata la prima volta nel a Milano , dal Commentario del Landino alle opere di Orazio, stampato nel , e dal Proemio dello stesso autore al Commento della Divina Commedia, come si manifesta sia in alcune note marginali nelle quali si nomina la prima delle fonti soprindicate, sia in qualche passo di testo, qualche notizia tratta dalle ultime due, e che si trova fra i materiali raccolti negli ultimi quattordici fogli del suo manoscritto. Paragonato al lavoro analogo di G. In due soli passi del testo, ed in un supplemento ad esso esiste una prova che provengono di certo da informazione orale. Tutto questo sarebbe sparito nella redazione definitiva del testo, la quale - come si desume da tante postille marginali che almeno indirettamente accennano a essa p.
Kajitaur He began working on his bronze portrait bust of Cosimo at the same time. Did he intend, with this cartoon, to express his bitter feelings about the course of events? The manuscript was forgotten about until published in by Karl Frey; altogether the manuscript has been published three times in Italian. His portrait of Savonarola remains the most famous image of the reformer, Fra Bartolomeo painted both in oils and fresco, and some of his drawings are pure landscape sketches that are the earliest of this type from Italy. Florentine bankers financed the English kings during the Hundred Years War and they similarly financed the papacy, including the construction of their provisional capital of Avignon and, after their return to Rome, the reconstruction and Renaissance embellishment of Rome.
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